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Doubleshot: GHIT 0115: HPDE with NASA Great Lakes at Mid Ohio and GHIT 0116: Car Prep Weekend Progress and the NASA Great Lakes HPDE at Mid-Ohio Wrap UP

  • Action at the Hangar
  • Toyota 86 Prepped and Ready for a NASA GL HPDE
Work Weekend at the Hangar and HPDE Weekend at Mid-Ohio

A quick episode to cover the highlights of today’s HPDE event at Mid Ohio with NASA Great Lakes.  We also summarize the changes within the event to account for social distancing and how it impacts the event.  We will have another episode later this week to go into greater detail, as well as review Sunday.  

  • 2OF Racing
    Two Old Farts Racing,
    Awesome guys with a great team name
  • Awesome Vehicles Abound at a NASA GL Event
    Awesome Vehicles Abound at a NASA Great Lakes Event

Vicki, Jennifer, and Bill tried to talk through the recent work weekend at the garage and then we reviewed the NASA Great Lakes HPDE Bill attended at Mid-Ohio.  Everyone was quite tired from the weekend, but we wanted to get this out while it is still fresh in our minds and to fulfill the “fix” of a few listeners who wanted more detail from the HPDE after Bill’s “too short” episode from Saturday.  If you have any more questions, we will have at least two more NASA Great Lakes Episodes in the coming weeks with other instructors and drivers from the event, so please let us know.  We also had two competing tools of the week from Jen and Vicki while they were prepping the cars for their new theming.  On this episodes “Dominating with Dawson” segment we go into Pre-Race Thoughts and how we prep for a race weekend and a driving stint, with some of our usual digressions along the way.

All Work and No Play, No Worries

We hope you enjoy the episode and apologize for being a bit scattered and tired during the recording!

Best regards,

Bill, Vicki, Jennifer, and Alan

Hosts of the Garage Heroes In Training podcast and team members in the GHiT Immature Endurance Racing Team

Highlights from the episode include:

1)  We start our discussion Live, inside the Hindenburg, or at least it sounds that way.  We are sorry but our microphone unplugged as we started recording .
2)  Progress on the mechanical and electrical projects that are needed in the BMW E36 race car, including the new passenger seat for HPDE usage
3)  Progress on the fuel cell and sway bar projects for the El Jeffe Chevy S10 race truck and the beginnings of the new theme.
4)  Our progress tape system we are using to communicate the progress and status of our various projects between all the team members that are working.  Hopefully it will help us (and you) to keep track of things and eliminate silly/avoidable errors, like torqueing lug nuts.
5)  Two new additions to the team, Randy and Dennis, who are helping us out and Randy may even drive with us in the upcoming races.
6)  We review and compare the three types of painting we have used on prior cars.  This includes spray cans/rattle cans, Plasti-dip spray cans/spray wrap, and auto paint using a HELP system.
7)  If you do use a normal spray can or rattle can, please make sure to use the auxiliary handle to make it much easier to hold the nozzle open.  After 40 or more cans, your fingers will be much happier.  Details are on our website under the tips and tricks section if you are not familiar with this attachment.  Its usually around 5-8 dollars.
8)  The demise of our “Bob Ross Penalty” adorned to the side of the El Jeffe/Bad Hombre race truck
9)  We then discussed the HPDE at Mid-Ohio and how the changes to the Toyota 86 affected the handling of it on track
10)  Bill goes into the preparation process he uses for an HPDE, as well as for a new track.
11)  We also go into a few of the bad habits we have developed from our primary racing in endurance racing.
12)  The COVID/social distancing related changes and impacts on the event schedule and potentially on upcoming HPDE and racing events
13)  Our dogs Zoey Lemons Fischer and Ziggy Stardust Skripchuk made guest appearances throughout the episode in the background.
14)  Bill messes up by calling a C Z06 Corvette a Camaro.  Boy, he was tired, lol.
15)  Bill gets into the track prep and track map notes he makes prior to going to a new track using Mid-Ohio as the example.
16)  We describe the four drills that we used in the HPDE 2 run group this weekend.
17)  The final two sessions were Bill’s favorites of the day, likely due to his being more comfortable with the track and hopefully his improved driving skill.  TBD.  Everything went well until Bill mixed his lefts and rights in describing the chicane going into the keyhole. 
18)  Bill’s goals going into the HPDE we accomplished, and in some cases too much in the other direction.
19)  Best practices and habits for getting the most out of an HPDE event.
20)   Bad endurance racing induced habits:  Slow to learn a track, no firm fixed points for each turn, too comfortable winging it and adjusting line and speed by visual and by feel, need to tighten up and be more consistent, especially in an open track condition and an HPDE.
21)  Goals for Bill’s next HPDE session include:  1)  better prep,  2)  Fixed points on the track for BoB and EoB, Turn in, and Track out.  (apex is set)
22)  Jen’s tool of the week is a grinder with a wire wheel to remove rust and paint because it is so Zen.  Vicki’s tool of the week is the Power Bleeder for bleeding brake fluid and changing brake fluid.  Thank you Randy for letting us borrow it.  The tool of the week should have been a pillow.

Jen Having Her Zen Moment

23)  We finally figured out why Bill is here.
24)  Vicki wraps it up when she was done, lol.

Doubleshot:

GHIT 0115: HPDE with NASA Great Lakes at Mid-Ohio

and

GHIT 0116: Car Prep Weekend Progress and the NASA Great Lakes HPDE at Mid-Ohio Wrap Up

Car to Race Car Conversion Priorities

Race Car Dialing In
It is a process to take a “normal” car and dial it into being a race car.

GHIT 0063: Car to Race Car Conversion Priorities

Priority and Sequencing Towards Dialing In Your Car

Our team now has a new race car build about to begin.  Long Roof for Life:  Project Codename:  Godzuki!!!  It is a new to us Honda Civic that we are converting into an endurance race car after this season.  Since we know our “Mr. Honda” we will have backup knowledge to assist us as we go.  Our plan is to build this car as a demonstration project for our listeners.  Do you have any ideas or thoughts, and suggestions on what we should do? If so, please let us know within a podcast review or on our email at [email protected].

On this GHiT Team focused episode this week, we covered what we have been up to in the garage recently.  Lots of HPDE and NHMS race weekend prepping on all counts.  Vicki has been obsessed with car detailing for the past two weeks on her turbo 1999 NB MX-5.  Inside, outside, in the engine bay, adding decals, etc.  Alan avoids the Capri with everything else that could possibly be worked on. Bill is working on the 4 HPDE cars for Watkins Glen. Plus two additional race cars this week (The cheap Boxster is trying its best to avoid remaining cheap).  We also get into the Race Truck brake issue and our path forward; still not sure we have a plan.  Vicki makes her point that we could use an additional team member with mechanical skills, but…. We still do not know how to find our missing skill set.

We cover how to go about converting a streetcar into an endurance racing car and in what sequence. 

Our general priority is to first make sure it is safe by stripping it down and making sure what is structural is sound and repair as needed.  After this, we add in safety features like the roll cage, racing seats, racing harness, and fire suppression systems etc.  Do not forget to address the brakes and braking system with good racing pads and racing fluid. Also, we will likely improved brake rotors and calipers.  Please review our episode #59 with Wendy from Porterfield’s if you would like much more detail in this area.  Tires and brakes are probably the biggest performance bang for the buck improvements you can do.

The next priority we like to follow is to improve our driver skill and the durability of the car towards the abuse it is about to receive.  This would include better grades of the various fluids, better suspensions, oil coolers, radiator improvements, transmission coolers, differential coolers, etc.  Potentially adding a better clutch etc. as they fail during racing.

As far as driver improvements, we really like HPDE events for the type of racing you will be doing, for instance NASA HPDE for road racing, EVO School for Autocross, etc.  Really any type of coaching will usually lead to significant improvement, especially if early in your racing career.  Do not forget to use your daily driving time to help practice and improve several aspects of your driving skills, like heel and toe, hand positioning and movements, and long range vision etc.  At this point you have a good solid foundation and you can work to dial in the car further and continually improve. 

Once solid, we start looking at better clutches, improved drivetrains by adding in an LSD or a Torsen or even a locked/mini spool type etc. and avoid the open differentials where you only drive one of the wheels.  The costs of these improvements tend to be a bit higher than the earlier steps.

Nice/Next level additions to have at some point would include:

  • Telemetry and video analysis to allow you to compare driver styles and performance via the data collected.
  • Engine power increases can be a very expensive path unless you swap out the engine
  • Suspension improvements like lowering the car, improving handling with springs, sway bars, coil overs, etc. Lightening the vehicle.
  • Aero is also another great path to improve performance at a reasonable cost. 
  • Do not forget alignment is a great bang for the buck potential improvement, especially a good alignment and then a racing camber and toe adjustment.

We ended with Vicki’s Tool of the week for use with vinyl decals, stripes etc.:  It is called Knifeless Tape and it allows you to cut any designs and shapes needed into any vinyl to make your desired edge designs.

And finally, Vicki volunteered to list several of our cars for the “we” of our team.  “We” shall see.

Again any questions, suggestions, movie references, and/or car purchases, please contact us at our email at [email protected] and or even better within a podcast review.

GHIT 0063: Car to Race Car Conversion Priorities

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